Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Coach Talk

Another name that has been mentioned for the IU job has been Scott Drew. If you are not familiar with the massive rebuilding job he has done at Baylor, check out this article from cbssportline.

Rebuilding the mess that Kelvin Sampson created at IU would pale in comparison to what Drew had to do at Baylor. The IU mess is from phone calls. The Baylor mess was from one teammate murdering his best friend and fellow teammate. Yes, I said murdering. And if that wasn't enough, the coaching staff also got into all sorts of trouble with the NCAA including the head coach encouraging players to lie to NCAA investigators -- more on this from wikipedia.

If your interested in more on Scott Drew himself, here is a link to his bio.

Here's what I would consider the positives about Scott Drew:
1. Son of a Coach (good ole Homer)
2. Ties to Indiana -- Butler grad, assistant under his Dad at Valpo for several years and head coach at Valpo for one year before taking the Baylor job.
3. Great Recruiter -- 3 straight Top 20 classes at Baylor.
4. Ability to rebuild -- again, the IU mess would look like nothing compared to what he stepped into at Baylor.

As for the negatives:
1. Still young and inexperienced.

In many ways, I see Scott Drew as a similar candidate as Tony Bennett -- coaches son, ties back to the state and/or midwest, has been successful but has only been the head man for a few years.

And if you like the young up and comer and coaches' son type of candidate, you may also want to check out the bio for Drake's Keno Davis. Son of Dr. Tom, Keno Davis has been winning National Coach of the Year awards this year. And rightfully so. After last year's 17-15 team graduated 4 starters, Keno took over as head man and won the Missouri Valley conference with a team that predicted to finish 9th. Also served as an assistant under Bruce Pearl at Southern Indiana.

So, what do you think of Scott Drew as a possibility? How about Keno Davis?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think Drew is somebody they should look pretty hard at. One area of the state that consistently turns out top talent is NW Indiana, and for whatever reason IU has trouble recruiting here. Drew would open them up big time to this market. A few names of players they've missed from the Region. Glenn Robinson, Robbie Hummel, Scott Martin, E'twuan Moore, Angel Garcia, Luke Harangody. Notice most of these names ended up at Purdue so we can hurt them and help us at the same time.

Also, what about Mike Brey at Notre Dame? He seems to be consistently in the top 25 at a big football school which can't be easy to recruit to b/c of academic standards. I'm not sure he'd be high on my list, but seems he should at least get a mention.

Anonymous said...

Another name that was a little hotter last time through but could still be a good option: Tom Crean at Marquette. He's enough years removed from Dwayne Wade to realize he might not have it as good as he thought.

Anonymous said...

ryun:

both sound acceptable, but it annoys me that we're not an upper level team that gets considerations from big dogs. i like the crean mention better. i want a pitino or someone big like that!

Anonymous said...

Some words about Sean Miller. Xavier has a recent record of being a head coach launching pad. Past two coaches are Thad Matta and Skip Prosser who are both doing well in the Big Ten and ACC respectively. Sean Miller picked up w/o missing a beat and pulled a 3 seed this year at an A10 school.

Anonymous said...

Chris Wrote:

My only concern with Bennett, Drew, and Sean Miller is that they haven't run their programs for very long. We have no way of knowing if they can sustain a program.

I don't have time to do it right now, but how would you rate them against Bo Ryan, Izzo, Matta, Painter and then nationally Self, Barnes, Pitino, etc... I;m not talking about records, obviously, but are these guys the next crop?

I know Knight was very young when he got started but he really was one in a million.

Anonymous said...

I guess what I think is that these guys do represent the next wave of successful coaches ready and waiting to take over a perennial power. My thought on somebody like Pitino is this. He would be awesome. Ebanks would resign and we'd play for a title in the next few years which I think we'd all take in a heartbeat. But how much longer does this guy coach? Are we turning over the program again in 5 years and then who's hot, who's available? Do we get another big time established name and repeat the process in another 5 years? I think the timeline is a little longer with Pearl and you could reasonably expect a 10 year run if he stays successful.

jdhoosier said...

I think when you are talking about a coach that is the caliber of Pitino and he would be willing to listen, then you go after him.

If you get Pitino, it's worth it even if his time-frame is only 5-7 years.

Now if you are talking someone like Mike Montgomery, then I say skip it and go for the young up and comer.

But if Pitino would have any interest, it's time to apply the full court press.

Anonymous said...

Jeff, I agree and maybe Pitino wasn't the best example. I just don't agree with some of the comments that IU has to bring in a big name coach. Unless they can bring in THE big name coach then they need to look to make the choice for a long term solution. Of course that still leaves the question of who falls in the "THE" category. Obviously Pitino does and seems to possibly willing to entertain. Izzo, Coach K, Roy Williams, Calhoun all do, but there not leaving. Does Self qualify (seems like yes), Donovan (I think he proved with the Orlando mess he's not leaving), Calipari (always seems shady to me).

jdhoosier said...

I think someone already mentioned this, but I wonder why Rick Barnes does not get mentioned more?

It seems that every name under the sun gets bantered about, but you don't always hear his name. I think he would be a good candidate.

There are basically 3 categories that I know I don't want:
1. IU Family (no good candidates)
2. NBA Coach (no college & recruiting experience)
3. Assistant Coach (no head coaching experience)

Anonymous said...

Another name that was pretty hot a few years ago but has been quieter lately is Jay Wright(?) at Villanova. I know he got huge extension after their run a few years back with Allan Ray and Foye, so maybe he's off the table. I do like Barnes, not sure why his name does get floated around more. Has he stated he's not leaving Texas?

Anonymous said...

Purdue is killing Scott Drew and Baylor right now. Do we have to eliminate him from the list if he loses by more than 10 to the Boilers today?

jdhoosier said...

I was going to put together an IU Coaching Rumor bracket.

Sean Miller and Tom Izzo have already won.